Today the text of the 3rd memorandum of agreement eliminating public provisions was released. Simultaneously today, one day after the arrest of a journalist for releasing a list of tax-dodgers, a young man was arrested in Corfu island because he published in his web-blog photos of police officers having very friendly encounters with neo-Nazis. Earlier in the morning the management of the state TV channel (ERT) announced that from tomorrow the presenters of its morning news show are going to be replaced. The reason is that the two journalists commented on the attitude of the Minister of Citizen Protection (police) who was threatening that will sue foreign newspapers for writing that the anti-Nazi activists were tortured in the Police HQ. The two journalists were discussing about the coroner’s diagnosis which was released confirming that proper torturing of the 15 anti-Nazi activists did occur in the police HQ.
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Rolling 24 HRS strikes until decision on Arvanitis/Katsimi is withdrawn:
http://www.keeptalkinggreece.com/2012/10/29/state-net-tv-presenters-cenored-for-criticizing-public-order-minister-over-guardian-torture-report/
Time to get guns…
There are only two ways out: civil war with guns or a SYRIZA goverment after new elections in spring 2013. I prefer last one
Interesting. But how can Syriza solve situation, with its intrinsic populism? There is no way back, not only such way is not desirable, but also impossible. Unfortunately, SYRIZA doesn’t seem to realise this.
@Ravachol: I’m sorry to say, but either your call is just a nicely sounding phrase. There is surely need for anarchists, immigrants, people generally to organize for physical self defense, and be prepared to even use guns, but phrases like this will not help that.
the fuckers will stay until 2017
Syriza thinks a national – purely Greek – solution is possible, as does, in a very different way, Golden Dawn. If Syriza came to power, international capital would anyway either force it to compromise at the expense of the Greek poor or crush it by manipulating international finance.
If December 2008 had also provoked proletarians in other countries to confront their masters, it would have been obvious that only an international solution was possible. Of course, history doesn’t work out like that; the developement of independent opposition by the working class of each country is uneven. But it should be clear that any national (and party political/state) “solution” is a mirage which disappears as soon as you approach it. It’s a distraction from the constant need to renew the task of fighting for ourselves, an external “hope” about as useful as praying to some God or other.
There is a chance snap elections could be held if PASOK cannot suppress the rebels in the party, and should Greece be forced out of the euro the impoverishment will be ten times worse than it is now (some price of freedom to be free of the Troika but not capitalism). If civil war comes, then the struggle will be ‘internationalised’ alright, like Albania in 97, but this time they’ll use EUGENDFOR- if SYRIZA, the army,the police and their GD friends cannot maintain ‘social order’…
@jack common
Syriza does not think national, they will keep the Euro, they will keep Greece inside the EU but they will form another politics, that all. A lot of things they are planning are the most realistic solution despite civil war.
@leftway
bla bla. Syriza is not more populistic than any anarchist group. and they are not homogen, may thats their main problem for making real politics.
@all the others
If you are no police-trolls trying to divide lefties and anarchists, what is your solution?
VASILIKI says: “Syriza … the most realistic solution”.
What is realistic for the working class about their solutions, given the international crisis of capitalism? And given their opposition to anti-state violence?
The word “realistic” almost always means “realistic” within capitalist misery. An internatilonal revolution that abolishes the world market and the states that manage it seems very unrealistic. But the terrain of freedom is in the possible, however unlikely. The terrain of conservative waiting for an external saviour is in probability – and it’s very probable that very little will be “saved”, that over half the world will be wiped out by war, starvation, ecological collapse, capitalist-induced health disasters, etc. etc. That’s the nature of “realism”. Personally I prefer to strive for the improbable than resign myself to the probable.
Beautifully put Jack…Meanwhile Tsipras is courting the Americans, and the Israelis , probably with the lure of newly discovered off-shore energy resources- gas and oil (plus the uranium and rare earth elements on the mainland)- Google SYRIZA, TENEO and Angelopoulou -Teneo is a global consulting firm which was behind SYRIZA’s election campaign. Popular move eh, getting in bed with the nation that backed the Junta?
There are a lot of myths surrounding Syriza and espacially anarchists are very open for such stories. Think clear and realise that there is no majority for a real anticapitalst revolution in Greece. There are two ways: Go with Samaras and the fascists (they will grow a lot!) or build a left coalition where Syriza will get the majority from left liberal workers and middle class.
If you act against them like you do with you internet comments, you support Samaras + Golden Dawn. Good luck!
VASILIKI’s logic is the same kind of logic that led anarchists to join the Republican govt. in Spain in 1936 – and look how that helped: the Stalinists, backed by the “anarchists” in the government, shot and killed POUM and the anarchists in the streets…If you only think of “majorities” and how they think and act in the present, then one might as well go along with those who voted for Bush in 2004 or whatever. It’ll take a lot of struggle and actions and ideas about these struggles and actions for the majority to realise that their only hope is to take the world into their own hands.
Agree there- look at the great advances made by the Argentinian people in 2001-2, sure they didn’t ‘win’, but they moved forward without the collaborationist ‘left’ and rejected the Juntaistas and fascists…
@Jack & Incubus
In Argengtinia there was no revolution, they have a neoliberal president, nothing changes.
If you are realist you must think in majorities, sorry but thats the way the system works at the moment. If Greece have a right majority from Samaras to Golden Dawn you will see how reality looks like during the next years. And that Syriza would only take the power to their hands is not an argument, its nothing, everybody could say the same about anarchists.
VASILIKI: “And that Syriza would only take the power to their hands is not an argument, its nothing, everybody could say the same about anarchists.”. That might be true of some “anarchists” who are really Leninists, but how do you take power for a small faction if your specific aim is to destroy the State and the power of elites (and of the whole economic system that is the product of hierarchical power). It’s obvious that anarchists – at least, as their explicit aim – have no desire to take over the state but in fact want to destroy it. Supporting Syriza, which believes that the reform of capitalism is possible and desirable, is a distraction from strengthening the neighbourhood assemblies, the resistance to electricity cut-offs, etc. – all those aspects of struggle that “take power into your hands” without this power being a possessive power OVER people, things and territory.
Vasiliki let the kids play, they wont understand you.
I don’t understand adulterated adults who are truly infantile in the sense that they don’t want to take their lives into their own hands but want mummy and daddy in Syriza to do their decision-making for them.
Insofar as you have some “idea”, you seem to think the choice is Syriza or massacres along the lines of Syria. One of the possiblities is both. Either way, you pretend you can avoid the horror of not facing reality by appealing to some “majority” of people who remain simply constituents without direct inititive, constituents who merely vote and never develop anything for themselves from trial and error, constituents who remain spectators of history.
‘SYRIZA or SYRIA’? Seems to me, that is one step away from saying ‘Golden Dawn or Syria’- We Must Have a ‘Party of Order’ at any price, to maintain the status quo and get back to the ‘smooth’ functioning of the capitalist system- the very same system that has dropped us all in the shit, to varying degrees of depth…The ‘realism’ of gravediggers. An optimism of cowardice.
“Optimism of cowardice” – good phrase.
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